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- "In the year 1709, between the months of May and November, large numbers of persons migrated from South Germany - along the Rhine River valley - to Holland - then to London, England, thense to America in the following year of 1710 - to settle in New York state and in Pennsylvania. This migration was called "Palatine" as a large number of the emigrants came from the Rhenish of Lower Palitinate."
Wm. Ward Miller, "Minkler in America", p. i.
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I am direct decendant of Killian Minckler. My father was Rae Minler, Grandfather Don Douglas Minkler. My Mother Goldie Minkler is sure the name was Mienhart. Changed to Minkler after Killian came to America. My Aunt informed me that is correct. The Iowa Minklers attend Mienhart family reunions,so apperantly some of the Minklers kept the Mienhart name.
drmcatcher95@webtv.net
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The Echo gives conflicting dates for Killians birth date. The other date is 1670.
"In 1709 they left their home in the Palatine area of Germany and traveled to Rotterdam, Holland. From there, in May of 1709, they traveled by boat to England. There they lived as wards of the Crown, first in rude huts on the beach and then for three months on a ship in the harbor. They finally sailed with a convoy March of 1710. Of the 6,520 souls leaving on the ships, 450 died and 30 children were born during the voyage. They arrived in America June 13, 1710."
"The first Palatine arivals in the new land were on the ship "Globe", January 1, 1709. The second, and largest convoy landed six months later. The first ship of that convoy to arrive was the "Lynn", June 13, 1710. Three others were slowed by storms and one was wrecked on the coast of Long Island, only a few miles from their destination."
"Soon the Palatines were on the move again up the river and after lengthy problems with their original land patent, they came to Schenectady and then Schoharie in October of 1712. They were among the first white settlers in that area of New York State. The province furnished theim with food for the first winter. Still more of their group arrived in the Spring of 1713. In a short time they had settled towns on both sides of the river."
"Over the next several generations, the family scattered and today number in the thousands."
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I also have an article from the Yorker Palatine Newsletter, July 1998 Issue 57, p.5, describing the Palatine Monument Project, Text Inscription and List of Names:
"Know O Traveler, within sight of this hill on October 6, 1710, led by the Rev. Joshua Kocherthal and the Rev. Johann Frederick Hager, there arrived on the east and west shores of Hudson's River nearly three hundred families of refugees of the Palatine region in Europe who suffered many sorrows in the ravages of war, sickness, poverty, and destitution, tet survived to settle these shores, sustained by their faith in the Lord and the sympathy of Queen Anne of England, whom they came to serve in the reduction of the pine forest for naval stores for her majesty's fleet. Do you wish to know more? Seek out their names on this tablet, on the pages of history their deeds."
Minckler is shown in East Camp, (Hunterstown, Queenbury, Annsbury, Haysbury) Germantown area.
Dedicated to the Memory of These Settlers, Saugerties Historical Society, June 13, 1998. St. Paul's Lutheran Church, West Camp, NY.
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According to Fonda Baselt, Baselt2@AOL.COM he arrived on the ship "LYON" in 1710 in New York, NY and was born 1673 Grossen Engels, Hesse, GER. Her source was Hank Z. Jones publication.
Books Found in the Library of Congress:
Ancestry of Henry Fowler and Emma Minkler, Henry Leroy Fowler (1843-1938) LC Call No. CS71.F7881987B, Dewey No. 929/.2/0973 ED: 19 LCCN: 87-80989 Published Baltimore (1001 N. Calvert St., Baltimore 21202 : Gateway Press, 1987) 196 p. and bibliography.
Patriot Families: a genealogy of the direct descendants of Jacob Coy and Killian Minkler, 1st ed. by Alfred A. Rousseau, 1928 published by Keepsake Publications, Seattle WA 1994. LC Call No. CS71.C87751994, Dewey No. 929/.2/0973 ED: 20
Minkler in America, c.1980 by Robert Arthur Minkler (deceased).
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From a posting at Genforum:
"Palatinate" or "Palatine" could be a reference to what is the modern German state of Rheinland-Pfalz. It was formed from the southern part of the Prussian Rhein Province, the Bavarian Palatinate, and parts of Rhein-Hessen and Hessen Nassau. Principal cities in this state include Mainz, Kaiserlautern, Trier, Koblenz, Worms and Speyer.
Many of my ancestors were from this area and came to Pennsylvania in the 1700's (Seidemann and Sebastian from Freinsheim, Grumbach
from Duttweiler). Please be advised, however, that in 18th century America not all "Palatines" were actually from what is now Rheinland-Pfalz. German speaking immigrants were sometimes indiscriminaty called Palatines even though they might have been from this place or might have been from Alsace (present French Departments of Moselle and Bas-Rhein), the Saarland, northwestern Baden-Wurttemberg, western Hesse or southwestern Westfalen,all neighboring regions.
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From: http://www.fortklock.com/knittleholland.htm
THE EMBARKATION LISTS FROM HOLLAND
These lists comprise the enumeration of five separate sailing of Palatines from Holland, as sent by the Rotterdam Commissioners, vanToren and van Gent, to Minister Dayrolle, who forwarded them to England. The lists were found in the Public Record Office, T 1/119, 6-10, 19-26, 68-72, 58-65, 79-82. They comprise notations of about 11,000 persons, by far the largest lists relating to this immigration, although even the Embarkation Lists are not complete. They lack the enumeration of the first party to sail in 1709, the 825 persons given in Appendix B. They do not include those Palatines who paid their own way to London or were sent by private charity in August and October, 1709 as related in Chapter III.
So far as possible the enumerations have been retained in exactly the form in which the Dutchmen made them. This was considered most desirable for genealogists, who will use them to greatest advantage. For the ordinary reader, it may be necessary to explain further that "vrouw" means wife; "weduw", widow; "moeder", mother; "swister," sister; "knegt," servant. Of course, each sailing list has been alphabetized to facilitate their use. When names are indented, they are the names of children which happen to be mentioned, and they are not included in the additional number of children ending the line. (Because of the limitations of html, the names are directly below the parents' names. I sincerely hope the names are correct, it is tough typing lists of names. My apologies for the errors. ajberry)
SECOND PARTY SAILING MAY 23, 1709
Minkeler, Kelioen & vrouw
Anna Margreta
Schneider, Bernhard & vrouw
Ariaan, Anna Bara, & 1 ch
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At Minkler Forum, WWW.Genforum.Genealogy.Com
Oldest ancestor of the Minklers
Posted by: Uwe Minkler Date: December 07, 2001
Minkler, is as far as I know, derived from a German Name "Winkler" which is quite common around there (made up by two morphenes "Winkel" which would be translated as "angle" and "-ler" being the executive of this (as in building a house), I'm studiying linguistics at the U. of Cologne, Germany, and this is the most likely explanation that I can think of)
Though the oldest scrap of paper that I found about my family is on a certain "Minkleer", a dutch merchant, around 1440 A.D., him being the oldest direct ancestor that I found any real evidence on.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003
From: "Margaret Miesterfeld"
To: PALATINES-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Palatines] Re: Genealogy of the Pfalz
Dear List,
I have traced my Herrle family in New Orleans back to the Pfalz in
Germany using Mr. Albert Weigel's Hatzenbuhl book of genealogy. He has
compiled church records and civil records of Hatzenbuhl, Steinweiler and
NeuenPotz in the Pfalz. They contain the families, history, photographs, and
migration of each town. Mr. Weigel now has 90 manuscripts on 90 towns in the
Pfalz ready for publication. These books are outstanding and should not be
overlooked if you are researching in the Pfalz. He may be contacted at
Wendelinusstrasse 5, 6729 Hatzenbuhl, Germany. Happy Hunting.
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