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- From Charles E Semple
"Cathcart entered the Sempill family when Helen married Ala
n Stewart, 3rdBaron Cathcart. William 2nd Lords' brother, Gabriel, had possessions inCathcart and Ladymure. When Alan Stewart died, his Cathcart possessionsremained with Helen and she apparently gave Cathcart to her uncle Gabrielor her cousin Gabriel, son to the 2nd Lords brother Gabriel. In anycase, Cathcart became a Sempill thing in total during Helen's life fromall that I can gather.
Cathcart was an official Barony and belonged to Lord Sempill until itfailed with Samuel 8th Baron Cathcart sometime during the last half ofthe 1700's. What happened to Cathcart after that, I do not know. Fromall that I've read, I suspect it was absorbed as a "Sempill" thing.
I know the above is a "hazy" explanation without solid validity. As youmay know, when we read one thing, then another, then another, some thingsbegin to "add up"/"line up".......we begin to suspect things.....then westart searching to validate/confirm what we suspect. Well, everythingadds up to Helen getting all that husband Alan had then "willing" it allto her cousin Gabriel whom she held in very high regard. According to afew transcripts, she thought her cousin Gabriel was getting screwed, asit were, out of some old Sempill legacies that she thought he had a rightto, so, she went to bat for him. Cathcart remained as a Sempill entityfor solid 200 years B4 it failed with Samuel. The Baronage of Scotlandstates that he, "being bred a merchant, settled at Dublin in Ireland, andhas acquired considerable property in the counties of Wicklow and Dublin,viz, Roebuck, Bellview, Broomfield, Inchinappa, Castlehaven, etc." Itstates who me married, without issue, and that he was a son of Bryce, 7thBaron Cathcart, and also speaks as though he was still alone at the timeit was written. Through whom this line continued is difficult todetermine. However, there are many Semple's/Sempill's that have beenfound around Dublin at, and, after that time.
This is just one "clue" out of many. Sure, there is room for error, but,everything sure does come back and point in a very interestingdirection. Regarding an official "Lordship" of Cathcart, I assume as youthat the Baronage of Scotland apparently wrote off Cathcart for whateverreason......maybe due to Samuel skipping out and going to Ireland. ? ? ?? ?"
This was in reply to and E Mail
"I have other Barons of Cathcart from what is now the Earl of Cathcart'sfamily that I got from Burke's Peerage at very close to the same dates. Ido not have access to "The Baronage of Scotland" so can not see whatthe connection is, it is a bit unusual to have two barons with the sametitle name. William 2nd Lord Sempill's daughter Helen married Alan 3rdBaron Cathcart of this other line as I show on the web page. Do you knowif they are both "official" Baronies. I read somewhere that sometraditional, centuries old, Scottish Baronies where later not consider"officially" a lordship, although I do not know what stand "The Baronageof Scotland" took on this.
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