Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. John (Sir) (of Ryslippe) Lyon was born in 1380; and died.

Notes:

The information below is from Sandi Hartnell, (hartnellsl@attbi.com) whosays "Most of the early stuff was compiled by my grandmother's twinsister, Mina Lyon Rife. She dated the material 1956. She did a lot ofresearch, and attributed some of the material from a 3 volumes titled"Lyon Memorial". She indicated they were purchased in Boston at GoodspeedBook Store. I visited Glamis Castle about 10 years ago and haveguidebooks from there that had family information, and I also picked upsome information from various web sites. "

See also
Hartnell Family Tree
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1966349
Sandra Hartnell

See also under John de Lyon born Bet. 1292 - 1319


10 John (Sir) de Lyon, born 1320 (1340?), Norfolk, England or Glamis,Angusshire, Scotland. He was granted the thane age of Glamis by KingRobert II, first Stewart King of Scotland, in 1372. He was killed in aduel by James Lindsay of Crawford, Scotland's ambassador to England in11/4/1382 at Balhall, Angus shire. [Conflict - one source says he wasmurdered in his bed by Lindsay.] He was buried in Sconce with his royalconsort, Princess Jean Stuart1 1bWalter Stewart was born in 1292 inDundonald, Kyle, Ayrshire, Scotland. His parents were James Stewart,born about 1243 in Scotland and Egidia (Giles) de Bourg (Burgh) born in1263 in Ulster, Ireland. Walter married Marjorie in 1315, his secondmarriage. Her parents were Robert I "the Bruce", born July 11, 1275 inProb. Turn berry Castle, England and Isabel (aka Matilda), born about1278 in Of Mar. Walter died April 9, 1326. He was Sir/6th (sometimes3rd) High Steward from 1291-1326/Regent of Scotland, and Commander atBannockburn, 1314. Prior to Marjorie he was married to Alice Erskine.They had one child, Jean Stewart. After Marjorie's death he marriedIsabel de Graham,. She was born about 1298 Abercorn, West Lothian,Scotland. They had one child, Edigia Stewart. of Scotland. They weremarried 10/3/1376. He was Knighted in 1377; John (Sir) was madeKing-at-arms, the right to carry "double treasure fleuried and counter,fleuried in the bearing." Glamis Castle, royal resident since KingKenith I, 50 AD, was passed to John de Lyon and he was made Lord Glamis,and later High Lord Chamberlain of Scotland, and Ambassador to England.He became the head of the Lyon family of Scotland. He was a young man ofvery good parts and qualities, graceful and comely, and a great favoriteof the King. Being very fair he was known as the White Lyon.
11 Richard (Sir) Lyon, Knight, born 1350, married Margerie.
11 Henry Lyon of Ryslippe, Middlesex, England, born 1355, Norfolk,England.
12 John Lyon, Knight, born about 1380 in Ryslippe. He was withthe army of Henry V that invaded Normandy and made England heir to thecrown of France and was present at the famous battle.
13 Henry Lyon, Knight. Born about 1410, Ryslippe. [See HenryLyon, Knight document.]
11 John (Sir) Lyon, Knight of Glamis [Circa Robert II], born 1380,at Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland. He married Elizabeth Graham, born 1834at Dundoff & Kinkarine, Scotland, (Granddaughter of Robert II). He paidfor masses for the souls of his illustrious parents for 50 years. Hedied in 1435.
12 Patrick (Sir) Lyon, Knight of Glamis Born 1402, Glamis,Angusshire, Scotland. [Circa James I] He was hostage to the English forthe 1424 ransom of King James, and was made 1st Lord Glamis and a peer ofParliament in 1455 after being released as hostage as Lord Glamis I.Master of King's household in 1452. III Lord of Kingborne. He marriedIsabella (Ogilvie) Ogilvy2, born 1406 in Linthrathen, Scotland. She diedin 1484. He died in March 21, 1459 in Bellhelvies..
13 Alexander, born 1429, was made II Lord Glamis. He had no sonsand the Barony devolved upon second son at his death in 1486.
13 John Lyon, III Lord Glamis, Born 1431 in Glamis, Angusshire,Scotland. John died in April 1, 1497 at Glamis.. Privy Councillor toJames IV, Justice General of Scotland. He married Elizabeth Scrymgeuorborn 1435 in Dunhope, Angusshire, Scotland. Elizabeth died October 20,1492. Elisabeth is the daughter of John Scrymgeour.
14 [See John Lyon, IV Lord Glamis document]
14 Patrick
14 Charles
14 William, died September 9, 1513, Battle of Flodden.
10 Elizabeth de Lyon married Richard Wydville.
11 John Wydville, married his cousin Elizabeth Wydville
Elizabeth de Lyon then married John (Sir) Grey
Elizabeth de Lyon later married King Edward IV.
11 King Edward V, sent to the tower and smothered by order of hisuncle, at age about 12 years.
11 Prince Robert
11 Princess Elizabeth of York, married Henry VII
12 Henry VIII
13 Edward VI
13 Mary I
13 Elizabeth I
10 Thomas de Lyon. Married Margaret.
11 Elizabeth. Married her cousin John Wydville , son of Elizabeth andRichard Wydville.
12 Thomas .
9 Richard, born 1287
9 John (Sir) de Lyon, Knight, 3rd son of feudal Baron ofForteviot, born 1290. In Norfolk, England. [Circa King Robert II 1300]He married Alice St Liz

John married Jean Or Joan (Princess of Scotland) Stuart before 4 Oct 1376 in Or 1379. Jean (daughter of Robert II King of Scotland and Elizabeth (of Rowallan) Mure) died after 1440; was buried in Scone Abbey, Scone, Perthshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

This information is from Sandi Hartnell, (hartnellsl@attbi.com) who says"Most of the early stuff was compiled by my grandmother's twin sister,Mina Lyon Rife. She dated the material 1956. She did a lot of research,and attributed some of the material from a 3 volumes titled "LyonMemorial". She indicated they were purchased in Boston at Goodspeed BookStore. I visited Glamis Castle about 10 years ago and have guidebooksfrom there that had family information, and I also picked up someinformation from various web cites.


LYON GENEALOGY

The old world records and New England history of the Lyon families, asconcerns the family of Marcus Ruel Lyon, his old world background and thehistory of his ancestors of the New World families.

The history of the Lyon family as it goes from the chapter of one centuryto the chapter of the next, in it's mysterious reality has thefascination of fiction. We ourselves have been apart of all the tragedy(old world) and death.

In Leon (Lyon) Normandy, France, [de Leonne from "Leones" of Rome] livedGodfrey Louvein or Lowen, Duke of Brabant, head of the Lyon family. Hisdaughter, Adelecia, the fair maid of Brabant, married Henry I in 1120.(This alliance gave rise to the use of the lion in the royal arms). TheCastle of Lyons, near Rouen, gave much delight to the Anglo-NormanMonarch, and he died there. He hunted in the forest of Lyons and ateheartily of his favorite dish, stewed lampreys, and died of "surfeit"seven days later.

At the time of the expedition against the Saxon King of England, (Harold)one of the Leonne, an adventurous personage, with his followers, joinedthe banners of Duke William the Conqueror of Normandy. This deLeonne(Godfrey Louven or Lowen, the progenitor of the Lyon family of Englandand Scotland, held a considerable command in the invading army. Perhapsthe love of fighting as a diurnal occupation or for what he expected toget out of it. Leonne realized his opulent anticipations for he remainedin England and brought over his son, Roger (Sir) de Leonne, born inFrance 1040. In his adopted country he furthered the fortunes of thefamily. War was a profitable past time. So he donned his harness androde with Atheling into Scotland to depose Donald Bain. For this goodand faithful service in 1091 he obtained from King Edgar certain lands inPerthshire, Scotland to which he gave the name of Glen Lyon (1091).

1 Godfrey Louvain or Lowen, Duke of Brabant. [Circa 1019, Normandy,France , Henry I]
Head of the family of Leon, Leonne or Lyon of Normandy. He led theBastordes into England and remained there. He sent for his son, Roger(Sir) de Leonne.
2 Adelecia, married King Henry I in 1120. This alliance gaverise to the use of the Lion in the Royal Arms and Castle of Lyons in LyonForest near Rouen, where Godfrey lived.
2 Roger (Sir) de Lyon (Leonne) [Circa King Edgar]. Born inFrance, 1040, lived in England, later in Scotland, obtained lands inPerthshire, Scotland, named Glen Lyon in 1091. By grant or gift of KingEdgar for the successful expedition in Scotland (1066). Died between1059-1091.
3 Sir Paganus de Leonne [Circa Henry I]. Born in England in1080, he went to the Holy Land and traced his family linage to Kings ofLeone, Rome, Italy in 409. He fought for Henry I, settled in England.Died 1099-1169.
4 Hugo (Hugh) de Leonibus. [Circa Henry II] He was born in 1120.He was seized of lands in the county of Norfolk, England. Died 1153-1213.
5 Ernald de Leonebus [Circa King John I, 1199] He was born in1140 (1150?) in Norfolk, England. Died 1171-1240. William the Conquerorstumbled upon Sussex's soil. "See Seignior! By the splendor of God, Ihave seized England in my two hands." Land greed besets theirdescendants even to this day.
6 John de Leonebus (Lyon). [Circa Edward I] Born 1175. At thispoint the name is orthographically simplfied as it came down to us.(Lyon). He married Marjory de Oakey.
6 Pagan de Leonibus (Leon). Born 1200, Norfolk, England. Hemarried Yvette de Ferris (Yvette Referrers), born 1183-1206.
7 John (Sir) de Lyons, Knight. [Circa Edward II] Born 1225,Norfolk, England. Died in 1316 and is buried in Warkworth Church. Wassummoned to perform military service against the Scots, 1294. Edward IIsubdued Scotland. Married Marjory de Ackle, born 1226.
7 John de Lyon, Feudal Baron of Forteviot. Born about 1250,Norfolk, England. (Forteviot was one of the first Celtic thaneages.)
8 John de Lyon, born 1272 in Scotland, died 1292-1362.
9 Adam (Sir) Lyon, Knight, first son of Baron of Forteviot, born1285,Norfolk, England died 1383.
9 John de Lyon, 1292-1319. Died 1341-1384.
10 John (Sir) de Lyon, born 1320 (1340?),
9 Richard, born 1287
9 John (Sir) de Lyon, Knight, 3rd son of feudal Baron ofForteviot, born 1290. In Norfolk, England. [Circa King Robert II 1300]He married Alice St Liz.

This information is from Sandi Hartnell. However given the problem withthe dates of Roger (Sir) de Lyon (if the son of Godfrey Louvain orLowen, Duke of Brabant, he would have been born before his grandfather. Ihave changed his father to Lambert II Count of Barbant & Louvain. This isobviously a wild guess and needs more research.

Also the dates & names of the 7th , 8th & 9th generations seem a bitawkward. So I have show the 7th generation John de Lyon, Feudal Baron ofForteviot as son, not brother, of John (Sir) de Lyons, Knight.
Also Adam (Sir) Lyon, Knight's father was 13 when he was born, a bitunlikely so I show them as brothers. These too are obviously a wild guessand need more research.


For more information on Lyon Hartnell line see under:
Abraham Hartnell, b ?, d 9/29/1729 in Winfrith, Dorset, England
William Frederick Hartnell Born 2/6/1861 - Overmoigne, England
Joseph Hartnell was born in 1799
John Hartnell born July 1789 in Chaldon Herring, Dorset, Dorsetshire,England
James Hartnell was born in 1794
John Cox Hartnell May 21, 1834

William Penney, born about 1750

John (Colonel of Ryslippe) Lyon died October 03, 1592
William (of Roxberry) Lyon born December 13, 1620
Marcus R. Lyon born February 28, 1857
Henry (Sir) (of Ryslippe) Lyon, born about 1410
John (Sir) (of Foreviot & Glamis) Lyon, born 1320
John (4th Lord of Glamis) Lyon, born 1452
John de Lyon born Bet. 1292 - 1319
Roger (Sir) (de Leonne) de Lyon, born 1040

John + Possibly Many Generations of Lyon. Possibly (child of Sir (Lamont) Labman) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

See Burke's Peerage under "Moray". (page 1989, 106th Ed.)

For a listing of web sites that have the genealogy of family lines ofroyal houses, many noble houses and more, go to the entry "INFORMATION,Royal Houses family lines web sites" in this file.

For the sources of information, see in this file under "INFORMATION,Sources of" and also "INFORMATION, General Clan Genealogy ".

Which includes
Royal and Noble Genealogical Data on the Web
http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/
Index to royal Genealogical Data - ordered by lastname" atwww.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/gedx.html
Peerages in Order of Precedence atwww.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/peerage.html
Author: Brian Tompsett
This contains a huge amount of information including a great deal onBritish Peer's lineages, and Royal families of the many countries.

Royal Genealogies -- Menu
http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/~saw/royal/royalgen.html#index
The site has a huge amount of information. Not as complete as "Royal andNoble Genealogical Data on the Web" but much quicker to move around in.
By: Denis R. Reid, 149 Kimrose Lane, Broadview Heights, Ohio 44147-1258
Internet Email address: ah189@cleveland.freenet.edu
(216) 237-5364


"Britain's Royal Families. The Complete Genealogy". Alison Weir, 1996.Pimlico. Random House.

Robert married Elizabeth (of Rowallan) Mure in 1336 in Married Again November 22 1347 Or 1349. Elizabeth (daughter of Adam (Sir) (of Rowallan) Mure and Janet (of Polkelly) Mure) died before 1355. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

See also "Pieces of Mure of Rowallan History" (pt 1) athttp://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/Muir/muirhis2.html
"In 1348, Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam of Rowallan and
Janet, heiress of Polkelly, married Robert Stewart, son of WalterfitzAlan, high steward of Scotland. Robert Stewart's mother was Margery,daughter of Robert the Bruce. When Robert the Bruce's son, David, diedwithout issue, Robert Stewart became king of Scotland, as Robert II. Ishould also note that when Robert Stewart and Elizabeth Mure married thatthey had to obtain a dispensation from the Pope as "the parties were inthe fourth degree of consanguinity." I don't profess to know what thismeans as to proximity of relationship, but it would appear to have beenclose.
> Elizabeth Mure had siblings, Adam Jr., heir of Rowallan, Andrew, andAlexander. In 1417 there is a document that gives "to a noblemanAlexander Mure" various lands, but the important part is that the subnotedescribes them as "comprehended in the barony of STRATHAVEN, LANARKSHIRE.This grant was given Alexander Mure by an Earl Douglas, husband of RobertIII's daughter, Margaret"

Walter married Marjorie (Princess) Bruce in 1315. Marjorie (daughter of Robert I (The Bruce) King of Scotland and Isobel of Mar) was born about 1297; died on 2 Mar 1315-1316; was buried in Paisley Abbey, Renfrewshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Adam + Janet (of Polkelly) Mure. Janet (daughter of William (of Polkelly) Mure) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]